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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 9 December 2020 - 2:49 pm
Indeed. Hard to believe, that you have to deal with such problems in the USA.
Here in Germany, even smaller "cities" (< 40.000 inhabitants) have six or more polling stations which are run by employees of the township. Every poll station, does have up to ten or more voluntary citizens who later help counting and of course keep an eye on the whole voting process. Election day is always a Sunday between 8 am and 6 pm, and they start counting the ballots after 6 pm when the polling stations officially close - for usual, we have the election result two hours later and the official result next day. Citizens show their identity card at the polling station and get a ballot on paper, where they can vote for their candidate and/or political party using a pen in a polling booth. Ballots by mail also have become more and more popular here, mostly requested by older people who live in nursing home / hospital. It works as following, you go to your local township with your identity card and/or letter of attorney and then you receive the ballot several days later by mail. Every citizen does have the right to watch them counting, once the polling stations are closed.
Canada does elections similar to Germany with paper ballots. US law is all computerized and using voting systems. Democrats in 2017-2019 have been making a narrative that computer systems cost Hillary the election in 2016 and they were manipulated. Now that they think Joe biden won all of them are quiet and dont say a word.

In the US mail-in ballots are sent to anyone. Even people that didnt request them which is part of the lawsuit that is happening now among many other election & constitutional issues. This US election no matter who wins will go down as one of the sloppiest and huge **** up elections probably in history and they need to fix things really fast so that future elections don't end up this same way as well where half the country thinks the other half stole the election no matter the winner.
It gets even worse, if the media is already owned by only a few influential individuals who own all those companies. During the minimum wage debate here in Germany, the media was claiming that a minimum wage would cause hundreds of thousands jobless people and that all companies would immediately leave the country and other crap -- and they found plenty of politicians supporting them. The truth was actually, nothing happened after the minimum wage was introduced, just all those companies moaning, who now had to pay minimum wages.
As far as US policy goes I feel a minimum wage would kill smaller businesses especially if it's country based and every single state has the same $15 minimum wage. It should be state based as $15 in Iowa is way different to $15 in New York for example. I mean you already know the media is owned by a few of the silicon valley elite. You aren't even American and you know these things so clearly all it takes is for someone to do their own research and they will find the facts for themselves.
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Edited 9 December 2020 - 3:24 pm by +[email protected]
As far as US policy goes I feel a minimum wage would kill smaller businesses especially if it's country based and every single state has the same $15 minimum wage. It should be state based as $15 in Iowa is way different to $15 in New York for example. I mean you already know the media is owned by a few of the silicon valley elite. You aren't even American and you know these things so clearly all it takes is for someone to do their own research and they will find the facts for themselves.
As long as the minimum wage applies to the whole country and as long as everyone has to pay it without any exceptions, there won't be any problems.

Example: a baker / butcher / workman explaining to you, that he just runs a small business and therefore cannot pay the minimum wage (for whatever reason) should be explained, that his competitor down the road also has to pay it. Furthermore, the idea behind minimum wage also includes, that people spend more money on daily consumer needs, which means, that the baker / butcher / workman would benefit from this as well. In general, when giving the average worker more money, they will also spend more money on daily consumer needs and indirectly boost the national economy.

I agree, $15 in Iowa is way different to $15 in New York city, but the government has the responsibility to regulate this, so it works for everyone (in Germany you make much more money when living and working in congested areas). It's the same debate we have with healthcare or education too. Other countries even introduced the counterpart of minimum wage for well known careers. The "career minimum wage" defines how much they must pay you at least, if you have a certain qualification e. g. degree, diploma whatever, which is totally independent from the minimum wage, for example an engineer with a diploma in electrical engineering must make at least $25. Of course the government then must make sure, that certain jobs require a person with a certain qualification. ;-)
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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 9 December 2020 - 10:47 pm
Texas is joined by 17 other states in the case against Michigan - Wisconsin - Pennsylvania - Georgia.

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Posted 10 December 2020 - 1:33 pm
Texas is joined by 17 other states in the case against Michigan - Wisconsin - Pennsylvania - Georgia.

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O wait voter fraud is not true, its a lie, made up by Trump people.

This election has been stolen by democrats with Chinas money paid to Dominion voting systems. The democrats have to steal the election or the Bidens go to prison.
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 5:42 pm
O wait voter fraud is not true, its a lie, made up by Trump people.

This election has been stolen by democrats with Chinas money paid to Dominion voting systems. The democrats have to steal the election or the Bidens go to prison.


Sure... dream on lol
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 9:30 pm
kwin wrote:
Sure... dream on lol

Dreams and deception are yours in this forum, I post facts.
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Edited 10 December 2020 - 9:46 pm by vvvkasper
kwin you have no point in this forum. you are just an idiot. GTOH! you have brought nothing to the forum but your 2-brain cells.
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Edited 10 December 2020 - 9:52 pm by vvvkasper
Proof Facebook is behind this rigged election. They are going down! Unusual trading activties shows bearish signals on facebook. Some insiders know something we average Joe don't. When the big guys dump their porfolio, that is signalling something big is gonna happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d26q5tePW6g
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 10:12 pm
48 States Sue Facebook for Monopoly Abuse Over Instagram, WhatsApp Acquisitions!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_NttxixCfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXp1sZ7kafI

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Posted 10 December 2020 - 10:55 pm
Just wait around 6-7 weeks... Then we will know who posted facts and who was a troll...
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Posted 11 December 2020 - 1:05 am
The US is officially divided. Red states vs Blue states in support & against the case filed to the supreme court by the state of Texas.

Gonna be an interesting next weeks/months
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Edited 11 December 2020 - 1:52 am by vvvkasper
Amon, you really need to shut up! I haven't heard you said anything intellectual or made any claims of what you stand for except your quick response to attacking other people who are asserting their views. After many attempts to read your comments, I still can't make any connections with it to where I can make a valid argument because there is no substance to argue about. You are just spewing hatred and frustrationg over people trying to express their viewpoints because it is not consistent with what you see on the news. You can't keep running to your momma and come back to tell us, "it aint so." I can see Polaris making some factual statements and Chris making some valid points, which I can agree and disagree with some of them.
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Edited 11 December 2020 - 2:12 am by +AaryanKing
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 kwin


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Edited 11 December 2020 - 3:39 am by kwin
Vvvkasper, you really have to shut up. I havent hearth you said anything intellectual .

you have no point in this forum. you are just an idiot.! you have brought nothing to the forum but your 2-brain cells

I learned this from Donald :)
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Posted 11 December 2020 - 4:11 am
kwin wrote:
Vvvkasper, you really have to shut up. I havent hearth you said anything intellectual .

you have no point in this forum. you are just an idiot.! you have brought nothing to the forum but your 2-brain cells

kwin please be civil, that is no way to address another human being.


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