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new player lobby blackforest 4v4 tournament

Poll: Do you want this to happen?
Yes
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 [TheJedi]SparK


Joined:  9 November 2013
Posts: 667
Posted 5 August 2014 - 5:03 pm
^^^^^^rofl lmao

i suggest to set a limited number of players who can sign up and no time limit...
check each profile one by one and screw those guys who love bashing.
and free up fr more. simple but hard but worth it.
at least we can make npl guys confident and have fun. :)


(this is fr u arise>>C:)
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 Popemi


Joined:  22 September 2010
Posts: 199
Posted 5 August 2014 - 6:19 pm
Hey! This is a good one! I play BF in New Player, and i can say that there are good "New players" there. my vote is non-negative (Grande Cobos!! ajja)
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 Just_Gohan


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Posted 5 August 2014 - 6:32 pm
We need a tourrnament cause we are a lot of players and soundtrack's lovers.
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 [PTBNS]fabking


Joined:  22 July 2012
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Posted 5 August 2014 - 6:36 pm
We need a voobly promoter to promote this in new player lobby to get people to vote or reply in a democratic way. ;2angel
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 Popemi


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Posted 5 August 2014 - 6:37 pm
I agree with you fabking ;thumbup
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 [LOTD]_blunder


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Posted 5 August 2014 - 7:30 pm
LOTD could probably assemble a team or two.
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 _popemi_


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Posted 6 August 2014 - 2:11 pm
+1 This will be lot of fun!
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 mich


Joined:  11 July 2009
Posts: 14494
Posted 6 August 2014 - 8:14 pm
Yes ;1st we need the variety and besides this don't mean it's a new player tournament but more for the current players .

If that is going to be true, then why does the title say "New Player Lobby Blackforest 4v4 Tournament"?


Many things need to be considered in regards to having a tournament in the NPL. Not trying to be a wet blanket here, but these are just plain fact.
  1. Gauranteed players that aren't new and know how to play will join this tournament and ruin the fun for the actual new players.
  2. I personally don't understand why you want feedback from clans in this lounge. I personally don't believe in clans for the NPL. Players join a clan, then they stack the teams vs lower rated players. Next thing you know they are being reported.
  3. Hardly anybody believes in playing for fun anymore when you have points involved. I guess a warm and fuzzy feeling of victory isn't enough anymore lol
  4. It's near impossible to keep other lounges out of this tournament. +1 Anket
  5. This lobby was not created to keep players in it. It was created for the sole purpose of teaching new players how to play the game. After they've learned and become better players, they should be moving on to the other lounges. They aren't. This tournament promotes them staying in the NPL. I know many players that voice their opinion publicly about this, but they don't report. Reporting is very important. (Noob Bashing Information)
  6. There is a lot of criteria us Mods view to determine a Noob Basher. Something I'm not willing to go into detail about. It sometimes takes more than one hour to view one player. This is how much work is involved. I believe in being thorough to make sure that my assessment is accurate. I train the trial NPL mods to do the same.
  7. Checking the sign-ups within one hour to determine no noob bashers are preset is just not enough time.
  8. I won't mention any names on this thread, but some of you I've already warned about noob bashing.
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 Arise_


Joined:  21 May 2013
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Edited 6 August 2014 - 8:58 pm by Arise_
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Well you already warned me.
I won't sign up for this tournment, don't worry.. but I think it's a great thing a tourment there.
I believe that players want to be better at this game.. but there's some players who don't.
I mean.. I don't really care, I'm 30 yrs old with a daughter to take care..
don't wanna keep studying the game to get better and I know a lot of ppl there who do the same.
Just wanna relax.
The same goes for the clans that I meantioned before. Leaders from LOTD have 32 and 35 yrs old.
Frozen leaders are over 25.
They will stay in NPL.


And this "stacking" thing.. nothing personal Mich, but this term.. it's so ridiculous.
So if Im playing with my brother it's a stack and I'm doing wrong? 11
So I can't play with my friends cuz I'm a "stacker"? 11
Anyway, it's a discussion for another topic..
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 mich


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Edited 7 August 2014 - 12:35 am by mich
Arise_ wrote:
The same goes for the clans that I meantioned before. Leaders from LOTD have 32 and 35 yrs old.
Frozen leaders are over 25.
They will stay in NPL.

Not if they ignore warnings and not if I can help it. Also, age has nothing to do with maturity or level of skill. I know some 18 y/o that have a higher maturity level than some players in their 20's & 30's.
Arise_ wrote:
And this "stacking" thing.. nothing personal Mich, but this term.. it's so ridiculous.
So if Im playing with my brother it's a stack and I'm doing wrong? 11
So I can't play with my friends cuz I'm a "stacker"? 11
Anyway, it's a discussion for another topic..

Ofc stacking isn't considered ridiculous if you're the one doing it. If you and your brother are playing vs the same skilled people, then ofc that's not a problem. I was referring to when clan members play full 4 fmt vs lesser skilled players. Example being 13xx players playing 4 fmt vs all random 11xx. If you knew the policy you would see it's a violation.

And yes, another topic indeed.


On topic,

I would support a Blackforest Tournament for all players.
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 4V3NG3R_


Joined:  2 November 2013
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Posted 7 August 2014 - 1:04 am
mich wrote:

On topic,

I would support a Blackforest Tournament for all players.
This is the only thing that can be done atm.
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 TheRoamingBoar


Joined:  31 July 2014
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Edited 7 August 2014 - 7:25 am by TheRoamingBoar
Hi everyone, i'm a new player here but i want to have some thoughts of this interesting idea.
mich wrote:
...[*]This lobby was not created to keep players in it. It was created for the sole purpose of teaching new players how to play the game. After they've learned and become better players, they should be moving on to the other lounges. They aren't. This tournament promotes them staying in the NPL. I know many players that voice their opinion publicly about this, but they don't report. Reporting is very important. (Noob Bashing Information)
...

I agree with MiCh about the sole_rule of NPL to be the step for newbies to learn and move forward, but not agree about this tournament will ruin it. The tournament will atract more people to the lobby and make the lobby more excited. I think that will help people move forward. How can i learn if i dont have fun with it?

Instead of banning veteran players from the tourney, make some stages for them to perform their skills.
Or make the tourney reward like something that veteran players already have, then there's no point for them in joining and bashing noobie, but inspire noobie to become a veteran.

Anyway, i agree with the idea of more variety instead of just a Black Forest map. Like Deathmatch, King of the Hills, Wonder race,... or something more ?
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 [PTBNS]fabking


Joined:  22 July 2012
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Posted 7 August 2014 - 8:05 am
Exactly new player lobby ,meaning all players in new player lobby from 0-1400
Most have not taken the jump to MS becasue they are not ready or not good enough yet.
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 [PTBNS]fabking


Joined:  22 July 2012
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Posted 7 August 2014 - 8:08 am
Lets close this thread then and focus on an all player tournament for blackforest.
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 [DZ]MajesticDefense


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Posted 7 August 2014 - 10:38 am
why do mods or tourney host needs to check each player for being noob basher or ms player. each team can itself check its opponents for discrepancies. Just need to make rules like players should be playing on the npl ladder for 3 or 4 months and some rating limits or ratio. If any1 reported for not abiding by rules, he will get banned for 10 to 30 days or from such other tourneys (npl tourneys can become a regular event :D ) and the other team gets aw.


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