and just an idea... if dv8 chooses not to participate I think its best to make it a 4 team tournament with the current powerhouses (Eot_ 7th XceL & ViCiouS)
Can do a double elimination type tournament with the upper bracket team getting an advantage (for example leading 1-0 before the set starts)
to anyone unsure how this would work.
A vs B - C vs D
A beats B.. C Beats D.
A vs C (upper bracket semi finals)
B vs D (lower bracket.. loser of this is eliminated & out.) B beats D.
A beats C and advances to the finals.. C goes to the lower bracket and faces vs B.
C vs B and loser is eliminated.. Winner faces A in the finals match with a 1-0 disadvantage (or you can just scratch the idea of having a disadvantage if you want) but I think there should be a reward for being the team undefeated and making it to the finals.
Well epic have already said they will play and hopefully dv8 accept the invite so thats 6 teams already hopefully. I diffently want to make this bigger or at least equal in teams involved. The benefits to more clans playing have already been mentioned. Sure the more experienced clans will have a big advantage but it will still be good experience for the others and hopefully lead to more practicing to get good at different maps. It can only be good for cs to have more teams involved
I would very much like more teams participating. I don't have an urge to play a 4 team comp that's going to be dominated by the inevitable Eot/7th **** storm. Strictly speaking for myself.
I would very much like more teams participating. I don't have an urge to play a 4 team comp that's going to be dominated by the inevitable Eot/7th **** storm. Strictly speaking for myself.
Agree Tbh. Hardly worth playing with less than 6 teams.
We(DZ) have played many tournaments in the past and also have hosted some. Im sure we can put up a good team for this. Our players can come, they are active on the forumz
Will be excellent if we can get at least 8 teams involved. So we have ViCiouS/Eot/7th/XceL confirmed, potentially s1L3nT/DZ/Dv8/RB/Epic
Some suggestions I have to improve the flow of TIW:
- Keep it to a simple best of 7 4v4 stage. It's too time consuming to try and play potentially 5 1v1s, 5 2v2s and then 5 4v4s over 1 day.
- As above, this should make the veto system much more effective. We won't have the classic switch CBA maps after a veto is used. Not sure if 3 vetos would be too many in this format or not.
- If the format I suggested is accepted, I'd think 1st map being random, next 4 as home maps of each team (two each, loser of 1st game picks then alternate each game) and last two games random. I'm not sure if there's going to be a unanimous decision for a single map decider, so thinking leave it to randomizer?
Or are people happy enough with the last years setup? Speaking from our clans experience, it stuffed us around a lot as our time zones vary dramatically having to play a set over 2 days. Would be much better for logistics if we can do the games in one sitting.
have you talked with all your members and confirmed? same goes for DZ Epic & s1L3nT... I think you guys should look to confirm a team of at the very least 6 members before continuing in this tournament... we dont want our time wasted and you guys just drop out after a week.
ViCiouS Eot XceL & 7th can all atleast be reliable to be able to show up and play... dv8 as well if they are motivated enough even with a smaller roster.
Great to see the interest from other clans and now potentially also dmz also
Personally i much prefer 2015 set up, has i would like to see 1v1 and 2v2 rounds but i would like to see more 4v4 also. I diffently feel the 1v1 and 2v2 rounds added to the tournament. Now i do understand believe me on how time consuming it is as i was there for all the games but there would always be a 2 week window to schedule so all the games wouldnt have to be crammed in to a day or two. Though naturally there would be a 2 week cut off time where if games where not played and scheduled within the 2 weeks there would be a sunday 6pm gmt cut off time where teams would have to show with whoever they could get on. Of course its better to come to an arrangement on time and date between the clans.
What i would perhaps suggest is 1v1 bo5 - 1 point, 2v2 bo3 - 1 point, 3v3/4v4 -5 points (with both teams having to select at least one 4v4 as a home pick). Random deciders of course being in action like before and the veto system working like it did it before.
Now as we can see there seems to be alot of interest and well i was thinking how can we fit this into groups so i would suggest potentially:
7th
Vicious
Eot
Xcel
Dv8 (if they accept the invite)
All being seeded and then trying to get the groups to 2 groups of 4. So lets say we have epic, dmz, silent, dz and rb all vying for 3 spots in the main group stage. So what we could do is perhaps auto invite one of the 5 that we feel is most likely to fully play and offer the most competitive games and then have a playoff from the other 4 to get into the group. How we could do the playoff is randomly get a draw done and get the clans to play each other.
So what i would propose is do a playoff where we have 2 spots available and that we randomly do a draw between the 4 on who plays who and the winner of that match up gets a spot in the group. What we could do is use the set up and map selection from 2015 for those games to determine who goes through to the group.
Naturally im talking hypothetically and it would be dependent on how many clans express an interest on playing to how we determine who goes into the group so one clan mightnt say get an auto invite if for example more clans/teams express an interest and of course if invites arent all accepted
Can do a double elimination type tournament with the upper bracket team getting an advantage (for example leading 1-0 before the set starts)
to anyone unsure how this would work.
A vs B - C vs D
A beats B.. C Beats D.
A vs C (upper bracket semi finals)
B vs D (lower bracket.. loser of this is eliminated & out.) B beats D.
A beats C and advances to the finals.. C goes to the lower bracket and faces vs B.
C vs B and loser is eliminated.. Winner faces A in the finals match with a 1-0 disadvantage (or you can just scratch the idea of having a disadvantage if you want) but I think there should be a reward for being the team undefeated and making it to the finals.
+1
Some suggestions I have to improve the flow of TIW:
- Keep it to a simple best of 7 4v4 stage. It's too time consuming to try and play potentially 5 1v1s, 5 2v2s and then 5 4v4s over 1 day.
- As above, this should make the veto system much more effective. We won't have the classic switch CBA maps after a veto is used. Not sure if 3 vetos would be too many in this format or not.
- If the format I suggested is accepted, I'd think 1st map being random, next 4 as home maps of each team (two each, loser of 1st game picks then alternate each game) and last two games random. I'm not sure if there's going to be a unanimous decision for a single map decider, so thinking leave it to randomizer?
Or are people happy enough with the last years setup? Speaking from our clans experience, it stuffed us around a lot as our time zones vary dramatically having to play a set over 2 days. Would be much better for logistics if we can do the games in one sitting.
Feedback?
ViCiouS Eot XceL & 7th can all atleast be reliable to be able to show up and play... dv8 as well if they are motivated enough even with a smaller roster.
Personally i much prefer 2015 set up, has i would like to see 1v1 and 2v2 rounds but i would like to see more 4v4 also. I diffently feel the 1v1 and 2v2 rounds added to the tournament. Now i do understand believe me on how time consuming it is as i was there for all the games but there would always be a 2 week window to schedule so all the games wouldnt have to be crammed in to a day or two. Though naturally there would be a 2 week cut off time where if games where not played and scheduled within the 2 weeks there would be a sunday 6pm gmt cut off time where teams would have to show with whoever they could get on. Of course its better to come to an arrangement on time and date between the clans.
What i would perhaps suggest is 1v1 bo5 - 1 point, 2v2 bo3 - 1 point, 3v3/4v4 -5 points (with both teams having to select at least one 4v4 as a home pick). Random deciders of course being in action like before and the veto system working like it did it before.
Now as we can see there seems to be alot of interest and well i was thinking how can we fit this into groups so i would suggest potentially:
7th
Vicious
Eot
Xcel
Dv8 (if they accept the invite)
All being seeded and then trying to get the groups to 2 groups of 4. So lets say we have epic, dmz, silent, dz and rb all vying for 3 spots in the main group stage. So what we could do is perhaps auto invite one of the 5 that we feel is most likely to fully play and offer the most competitive games and then have a playoff from the other 4 to get into the group. How we could do the playoff is randomly get a draw done and get the clans to play each other.
So what i would propose is do a playoff where we have 2 spots available and that we randomly do a draw between the 4 on who plays who and the winner of that match up gets a spot in the group. What we could do is use the set up and map selection from 2015 for those games to determine who goes through to the group.
Naturally im talking hypothetically and it would be dependent on how many clans express an interest on playing to how we determine who goes into the group so one clan mightnt say get an auto invite if for example more clans/teams express an interest and of course if invites arent all accepted