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NPL Blackforest 4v4 Tournament Criteria & Rules

 mich


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:10 pm bởimich
I think it is allowed since it's not really in the banning policies.
GENERAL GAME VIOLATIONS

Any actions concerning a player who behaves in a manner that is deemed against the spirit of the game.
These offenses apply regardless of the game's outcome (win or loss for those affected). Evidence showing further violations of this nature in an attempt to combat the original offense may warrant a warning or full punishment themselves if deemed equally disruptive to the game.
Examples of such conduct include but are not limited to:


Walling enemies to prevent allies finishing the game (game delaying)
Walling allies (i.e. using a villager to build walls around a player's base or buildings)
Using siege units to destroy your ally's base

Please read these policies very carefully.

No, it is NOT allowed. We can't list every possible violation. This is why we wrote the first rule in this policy. Any Actions concerning a player who behaves in a manner that is deemed against the spirit of the game; stealing your enemies/allies sheep, killing boars/deer, walling tc's or resources, using siege units to attack your ally. Please use your common sense and let's have a fair game people.


As far as the time is concerned. I will change this and edit it so players have one week to play their first round. It will be up to the players to schedule their own matches. I will have the brackets finished on September 19th. The sign-ups will close on September 17th. This will allow me to check to see which teams should play who and have them matched up as fair as possible. The tournament start date will still be on September 20th, but players will have until September 27th to complete the first Round.


In regards to the suggestion of Division A winners playing the Division B winners. I want to keep this tournament as simple as possible for now. Maybe our next tournament, we can start with something like this. This is the NPL first tournament so I want to keep it at baby-steps since there is already a lot of criteria involved with this lounge opposed to other lounges.


We will keep the civilizations for all Round matches at Team Random. If we select civs for each round, that will be another thing that will require a really long discussion. Some players will want one civ and others will pick 5 other kinds of civ. Let's keep it simple for now everyone. Maybe in the next tournaments, we can pick civs for Rounds.

Banality wrote:
Just asked fab about how the 32 teams will be chosen, will it be on the basis first come first serve or select the highest teams who apply or what?

First post, first serve. If two teams don't qualify when they signed up, that will leave two open spots for the next people that signed up.

If a player from the winning team dropped, then the match will be restored. (should be resumed? )
If a player from the losing team dropped (and it is clear he is losing), then the losing team will have the option of restoring ( resumed? ) the game and play 4v3, or they will be disqualified.

It is easier to just restore the match if a player drops (depending on the game status at the time of the drop). Teams will have 10 minutes to restore the game with the original players. If the person that dropped can't play or went offline, that team will have the option to play 4v3 instead of restoring the match. A new game will be created.
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 Banality


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:11 pm
Cheers Michi :D! Happy to see teams will be able to schedule their own games, hopefully everyone who signs up are serious about doing everything they can to play their games. I'm sure you'll get a better turn out as opposed to setting a time for everyone.

Btw how many games will be played for each round? Is it just the one game for all rounds or one game for the early rounds and maybe the semi final and final BO3?
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 mich


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:21 pm
It's a single elimination round. If they lose the first game, the won't move on. Keeping it simple, remember.
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 Banality


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:28 pm
What would constitute a restart? (Asin buggy map)
Because each player in BF "should" get 8 sheep, 1 main gold, 2 smaller golds, 2 stones, 2 boars (you could argue you get a deer/boar patch too) if any of these resources are enclosed within trees will the game be replayed?

Does it also count if any relics are enclosed in trees?

And what if 2 sheeps are situated in a bottle neck where players intend on walling? If one player reaches the bottle neck first and gets an enemies sheeps what should they do? Send them back or could you use them? or send them ot a corner or the map?
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 mich


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:36 pm bởimich
Banality wrote:
What would constitute a restart? (Asin buggy map)
Because each player in BF "should" get 8 sheep, 1 main gold, 2 smaller golds, 2 stones, 2 boars (you could argue you get a deer/boar patch too) if any of these resources are enclosed within trees will the game be replayed?

Yes, match would be repeated.
Banality wrote:
Does it also count if any relics are enclosed in trees?

No, the match would not be repeated. Relics aren't really a huge part of the game and don't really play a huge part in the start of the game. Trading has more profit in gold than relics imo.
Banality wrote:
And what if 2 sheeps are situated in a bottle neck where players intend on walling? If one player reaches the bottle neck first and gets an enemies sheeps what should they do? Send them back or could you use them? or send them ot a corner or the map?

That rule is for the resources that are in the players' base. Otherwise it will be too picky. Whoever will reach those sheep first, gets them.

Good questions tbh ;)
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 [PTBNS]fabking


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 6:53 pm bởi[PTBNS]fabking
mich wrote:

It is easier to just restore the match if a player drops (depending on the game status at the time of the drop). Teams will have 10 minutes to restore the game with the original players. If the person that dropped can't play or went offline, that team will have the option to play 4v3 instead of restoring the match. A new game will be created.[/quote]

Hi mich ,will there be a time limit on how long a game has been played in order to be restored like first 20 min or so ,If a match is 1hour and a player drops would we still save and exit and restore?
In the second sentence if the player can't play or went offline and the game is over 1 hour and we must play 4v3 would we restore or start a completely new game?
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 [PTBNS]fabking


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:01 pm
I have been seeing most of the players what would fit into division B and they play well and make me think we need 3 divisions next time we do this .
Division A is correct ,the current B becomes C and the new B would contain players over 400 RM beginner games who are under 1300 rating because most are not that good ,they will sign up for Div B in this tournament but it will be a tough tournament.
Just a thought.
The current tournament will be a great one by the way.;thumbup
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 Banality


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:04 pm
Thankyou again Michi for clearing those questions up :D!
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 dreamergirl_


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:15 pm bởidreamergirl_
Hi mich ,will there be a time limit on how long a game has been played in order to be restored like first 20 min or so ,If a match is 1hour and a player drops would we still save and exit and restore?
In the second sentence if the player can't play or went offline and the game is over 1 hour and we must play 4v3 would we restore or start a completely new game?

Most games have a deciding factor (who is winning and who is losing). It won't really matter of the game time and I don't think it's a good idea to set one. If we set the rule at one hour, what if something happens in minute 58? Not much will change from minute 58 to one hour as far as who is winning and who is losing. That wouldn't be really fair just because of a two minute difference. This will be under the VCOM Hosts discretion as to which matches will be restored or not.

Terms & Conditions
  • If a player has dropped during the game, it may or may not be restarted based on the current game standings.
    • Message a VCOM Host once the drop occurs. This is to get the match finished in a timely fashion, whether it is restored or restarted.
    • If a player from the winning team dropped, then the match will be restored.
    • If the game is still undecided at the time of the drop, the match will be restored.
      Dropped games have to be restored within 10 min, else the player having a technical issue will be disqualified.
    • If a player from the losing team dropped (and it is clear he is losing), then the losing team will have the option of restoring the game and play 4v3, or they will be disqualified.
    • Other factors will be under the VCOM Hosts discretion.
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 Banality


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:27 pm bởiBanality
I've noticed it have nothing to do with MS rates..? Only that you can have a maximum no. of MS games played but nothing regarding rankings. Does it mean that for eg a player with 1.3k rate in NPL beginners with 100:90 w:l and also 1.7k in MS with 200:160 w:l could sign up? They wouldn't have an AKA, they don't have more then 400 games played in MS, they dont have a w:l of 2:1 in any ladder? Also presuming they have 25 games played (with acceptable w:l ratio), no other accounts...
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 dreamergirl_


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:38 pm bởidreamergirl_
Banality wrote:
I've noticed it have nothing to do with MS rates..? Only that you can have a maximum no. of MS games played but nothing regarding rankings. Does it mean that for eg a player with 1.3k rate in NPL beginners with 100:90 w:l and also 1.7k in MS with 200:160 w:l could sign up? They wouldn't have an AKA, they don't have more then 400 games played in MS, they dont have a w:l of 2:1 in any ladder? Also presuming they have 25 games played (with acceptable w:l ratio), no other accounts...

Terms & Conditions

We/I understand that we/I may not qualify according to profile match information.

All of this would fall under the terms and conditions. Listing specific ratings is confusing and a bad idea.
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 Banality


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:41 pm
Okay well if you're happy to do all the leg work ;P I wouldn't mind helping out any way I can, I know blake is here to help too
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 dreamergirl_


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Đã được sửa17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:46 pm bởidreamergirl_
Edited


Start Date


When
  • You have one week to complete the first Round. The first Round must have the last game played by September 27th @ 07:00am (-7 GMT).

Disqualification

  • Your team has not shown initiative or has not played within the one week time limit to complete the round.

Game Settings


Civilization: Team Random for all games.

Brackets

  • Brackets will be finished and posted by September 19th.


Terms & Conditions

Terms & Conditions

  • We have read, understand and agree to the Start Date and understand we have one week to complete each round.
  • If a player has dropped during the game, it may or may not be restarted based on the current game standings.
    • Message a VCOM Host once the drop occurs. This is to get the match finished in a timely fashion, whether it is restored or restarted.
    • Other factors will be under the VCOM Hosts discretion.

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 Banality


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 7:50 pm
8) Ohh yeah +1. Coming together really Michi :) ;thumbup

But if we're allowing teams the schedual their own games don't we need 2 forums/sub forums (Div A & Div B) where players can post there threads to set up a time ?
eg Team A vs Team E Division B Round 1
Team B vs Team F Division A Round 2 etcetc...
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 [PTBNS]fabking


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đã Post17 Tháng 8 2014 - 8:18 pm
That's a good suggestion either have a sub forum or will have to message the other team via private message to inbox ,but the sub forum will be sort of a proof.


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