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What does this mean for Voobly?
We are using the Qt 4.x software development framework on Voobly. In Spring 2021, the company behind Qt has announced end of support for Qt 5.15, unless you get a Qt 5.15 LTS subscription, which we cannot afford unfortunately. This means, that we are forced to upgrade our client to Qt 6.2 and in 2023 to Qt 6.5 to guarantee a stable client without any security flaws and most important, a client that works with newer operating systems such as Windows 10 and Windows 11 which is the majority of our community.
The current Voobly client 2.2 keeps crashing for players using the operating systems Windows 10 and Windows 11. Our Beta release Voobly client 2.3 already supports Windows 10 and Windows 11, and we were able to fix most crashing and UI blocking issues. There however exists one major problem with the new Qt 6.2 Voobly client, players using an End of Life (EOL) operating system such as Windows 7 or older won't be able to play anymore on Voobly.
This is also the reason, why development is on hold for some time and we are also unable to release important changes to our Anti Cheat to prevent cheating. If we continue using our outdated client, Voobly will be be losing most of their Windows 10 and Windows 11 players, on the other hand, if we switch to Qt 6, we will lose players using Windows 7 and older.
Switching to Qt 5.15 is not an option, because it would bring us back to where we stand today, being unable to continue development and providing new client releases since support for Qt 5 ends in Spring 2023.
We know that change can be difficult and that all users of Windows 7 would be forced to get a new PC or at least upgrade their hardware and switch to Windows 10 or Windows 11. It is clear, that there has to be a compromise that is acceptable for everyone on Voobly.
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LTS and offline installer to become commercial-only
Starting with Qt 5.15, long term support (LTS) will only be available to commercial customers.
Just for the few legacy OS users out there. Understand that this end of support will also affect those that are still running Voobly on Windows 2000, XP and Vista. Users of these operating systems will need to upgrade to Windows 10 or 11 within 6 months as well to continue using Voobly.
All the best,
Bombus
I can't believe the administration of voobly would let those players leave and play on gameranger and other asian clients. Can't be there 2 separate clients ? they don't even have to connect the players from one with the others
I can't believe the administration of voobly would let those players leave and play on gameranger and other asian clients. Can't be there 2 separate clients ? they don't even have to connect the players from one with the others
If it was possible, we would be doing that. As explained in my first post, it's due to license changes of the Qt development framework and Microsoft's interest to get rid of their discontinued products.
The problem are the annual costs since it's a subscription and not a license with one time costs. We are not able to cover those costs, even if we now get 50+ premium subscriptions. In general the project cannot be run cost-covering without the help of the community, since we are a community project and not a company.
looks like it will end soon
You can upgrade that Windows 7 computer to Windows 10 for free using your Windows 7 license.
All the best,
Bombus
Windows 7 & 8 can be upgraded to windows 10 for free and windows 10 is not more heavy then W7/8...
Windows xp is from ..... 19xx, another century...
I really don't see the problem...
It's true that you can upgrade from Windows 7 and 8 to Windows 10 for free and that it isn't that much more resource intensive, but what you're missing is driver compatibility. Players from not so rich countries may still be using hardware from about 2008. There may not be Windows 10 drivers available for the graphics adapter for example. Sure you can still upgrade to Windows 10 then, but you will be left with a PC that can't play games and is locked at an 800x600 resolution.
I do agree with st4rco that dropping support for Windows 7 is a big deal. It is a decision we all wish we didn't have to make, but sadly we have no other option.