Well, I didnt want get involved in this but. I dont see anyone complaining about Dopey playing for us other then Eot. Its fine I get that Eot must complain, its their main target.
1) Dopey has a right to participate in TiW like everyone else
2) Dopey hasn't played any games for TiW. Its ridiculous that he cant play.
3) Dopey wasn't aware he was in DMz roster. They havent talked with him recently. He did not give his PERMISSION for final group stages. He thought he could play with us.
4) It's easy for people to make mistakes when it comes to signing up for the tournament. The rules are shown to clan leaders, but not to individual players
5) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with Dopey playing for Xcel.
6) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with a CSer having the oppurtunity to play competitive games in TiW.
We never cared this in the first place. Army told me about this and i said i dont care go ask barry (who only cares). Now im not gonna leave someone in Xcel behind from this event. If you are not gonna let Dopey play for us. Xcel is out of this tournament. You have to take us all or leave us all.
For someone who says you don't care, it sure sounds like you care.
We don't care about dopey, we care about bending the rules for one clan. Ultimately it's army's decision and if he decides dopey can play then we won't pull out or cry about it, we just argued our view on the matter, so wise up. Giving ultimatums because you're.not getting your own way? Really?
No one else has spoken up except for 2 7th (out of all the rest) You act like everyone is backing your side and everyone is in your corner except Eot whos against you... stop 11.
1) I agree... and he did... he asked to be part of Eot some time ago and we said no.. he joined DMz short after and signed up with them for the TIW qualifier.
2) He didnt play any games because DMz and dv8 decided to do the TG set first and DMz got 4-0'd in that... then after that refused to play out the rest of the matches... Dopey was gonna play in the 1v1 rcb which was there but never got to.
3) He was always aware he was in DMz roster and if he told you that... he was lying (but im pretty sure you just made that up) and if he was part of a teams roster during the qualifier thats the only team he could go with for the rest of TIW... that rule was put in place to stop people going from a team who lost in the qualifier match right into another clan who made it into the final 8.
4)No mistakes were made... he joined DMz and was part of their team.
Stop acting like you guys are all one and some family... you dont even know dopey at all (Krasic) but he benefits your clan so you'll try and manipulate the tournament into forcing him play by giving some bull**** ultimatum.
Well, I didnt want get involved in this but. I dont see anyone complaining about Dopey playing for us other then Eot. Its fine I get that Eot must complain, its their main target.
1) Dopey has a right to participate in TiW like everyone else
2) Dopey hasn't played any games for TiW. Its ridiculous that he cant play.
3) Dopey wasn't aware he was in DMz roster. They havent talked with him recently. He did not give his PERMISSION for final group stages. He thought he could play with us.
4) It's easy for people to make mistakes when it comes to signing up for the tournament. The rules are shown to clan leaders, but not to individual players
5) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with Dopey playing for Xcel.
6) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with a CSer having the oppurtunity to play competitive games in TiW.
We never cared this in the first place. Army told me about this and i said i dont care go ask barry (who only cares). Now im not gonna leave someone in Xcel behind from this event. If you are not gonna let Dopey play for us. Xcel is out of this tournament. You have to take us all or leave us all.
Agreed and 7th will back Dopey and XceL and boycott TIW if this is allowed to stand, I hope other clans will back them too.
all 7th members is standing behind xcels decision and will not participate in the tournament unless dopey gets a chance to play with xcel in the tiw tournament.
/ 7th
It's funny... if we took dopey as he wanted to join Eot before any mention of XceL even came into light... no 7th would be backing that 11 and saying theres no way dopey should be allowed to play in a tournament as the rules said what they did.
Dopey should be allowed to play since he hasn't played any official matches for any clan. Ofcourse the rules are here for a reason, but alot of these guys who want to play in TIW have no big tournament experience so it is easy for them to make a mistake. They shouldt be punished for it so hard. If the more seasoned tournament players would make the same mistake I would say go ahead and exclude them/him from the tournament.
What u mean calm down? We're posting our opinion, we won't make idle threats like you guys if he plays, it's just dumb clans get to bend the rules if they cry enough. If this was eot (which it could've been but unfortunately we know how to read rules) your view would be different.
before all of you start acting so righteous and like you are doing this for dopeys benefit and because hes a new player and you just want to see him get to play games... be honest with yourselves and answer the simple question "If Eot did this would you be saying the same thing" of course you wouldnt.. you dont give a **** about dopey or him getting to play.
XceL wants to have a competent 2v2 team in RCB and thats fine so they will break rules and get 7th to vouch for them and boycott the tournament because of it. Either way if the whole tournament will just be ruined over this its not worth it at all... realistically he will only play one map for XceL.
Btw XceL is forcing armys hand. He doesnt want to see the tournament ruined and neither does anyone else just so we can move on with this process and get the tournament rolling... Eot_ has no problem with dopey playing.
And for the record if us (Eot_) and others wanted... we could all just counter boycott the tournament the way 7th & XceL are doing and ruin TIW for everyone... but we wont.
Army should have worded his rules better & explained to all teams everything that was meant by them.. same time XceL should have taken the initiative to atleast know the rules and what they were before boycotting a tournament for something that was their own fault.... thats my opinion on the matter and final say.
1) Dopey has a right to participate in TiW like everyone else
2) Dopey hasn't played any games for TiW. Its ridiculous that he cant play.
3) Dopey wasn't aware he was in DMz roster. They havent talked with him recently. He did not give his PERMISSION for final group stages. He thought he could play with us.
4) It's easy for people to make mistakes when it comes to signing up for the tournament. The rules are shown to clan leaders, but not to individual players
5) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with Dopey playing for Xcel.
6) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with a CSer having the oppurtunity to play competitive games in TiW.
We never cared this in the first place. Army told me about this and i said i dont care go ask barry (who only cares). Now im not gonna leave someone in Xcel behind from this event. If you are not gonna let Dopey play for us. Xcel is out of this tournament. You have to take us all or leave us all.
We don't care about dopey, we care about bending the rules for one clan. Ultimately it's army's decision and if he decides dopey can play then we won't pull out or cry about it, we just argued our view on the matter, so wise up. Giving ultimatums because you're.not getting your own way? Really?
1) I agree... and he did... he asked to be part of Eot some time ago and we said no.. he joined DMz short after and signed up with them for the TIW qualifier.
2) He didnt play any games because DMz and dv8 decided to do the TG set first and DMz got 4-0'd in that... then after that refused to play out the rest of the matches... Dopey was gonna play in the 1v1 rcb which was there but never got to.
3) He was always aware he was in DMz roster and if he told you that... he was lying (but im pretty sure you just made that up) and if he was part of a teams roster during the qualifier thats the only team he could go with for the rest of TIW... that rule was put in place to stop people going from a team who lost in the qualifier match right into another clan who made it into the final 8.
4)No mistakes were made... he joined DMz and was part of their team.
Stop acting like you guys are all one and some family... you dont even know dopey at all (Krasic) but he benefits your clan so you'll try and manipulate the tournament into forcing him play by giving some bull**** ultimatum.
1) Dopey has a right to participate in TiW like everyone else
2) Dopey hasn't played any games for TiW. Its ridiculous that he cant play.
3) Dopey wasn't aware he was in DMz roster. They havent talked with him recently. He did not give his PERMISSION for final group stages. He thought he could play with us.
4) It's easy for people to make mistakes when it comes to signing up for the tournament. The rules are shown to clan leaders, but not to individual players
5) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with Dopey playing for Xcel.
6) Other clans EXCEPT EOT have no problems with a CSer having the oppurtunity to play competitive games in TiW.
We never cared this in the first place. Army told me about this and i said i dont care go ask barry (who only cares). Now im not gonna leave someone in Xcel behind from this event. If you are not gonna let Dopey play for us. Xcel is out of this tournament. You have to take us all or leave us all.
/ 7th
Hypocrisy rules though.
XceL wants to have a competent 2v2 team in RCB and thats fine so they will break rules and get 7th to vouch for them and boycott the tournament because of it. Either way if the whole tournament will just be ruined over this its not worth it at all... realistically he will only play one map for XceL.
No we have problem too. Rules are rules.
Unlike you, we won't boycott the tournie because you can't understand the rules (Frankie made the rules clear to all clan leaders).
Good job guys, you're real champs.
And for the record if us (Eot_) and others wanted... we could all just counter boycott the tournament the way 7th & XceL are doing and ruin TIW for everyone... but we wont.
Army should have worded his rules better & explained to all teams everything that was meant by them.. same time XceL should have taken the initiative to atleast know the rules and what they were before boycotting a tournament for something that was their own fault.... thats my opinion on the matter and final say.