There will always be an argument over what are the 'most played' maps so please don't try. Europe is played more than at least 3 maps in that list. But again you'll argue it isn't, you'll bring 'proof', i'll counter argue with 'proof'... we've done this before so let's not do it again.
Voting it was the fairest way to do it, yet again, it's only the people who suck at euro crying about it (I don't see fran from 7th coming and crying like the rest of you absolute raging ****s). Rules were clear, frankie should just enforce them with 0 tolerance, someone will always cry and you will not please everyone, but this was done in the fairest way and i'm surprised people can cry so much about europe when it was VOTED in democratically. 7th KNEW from the start europe would probably make an appearance and waited till now to cry about it, absoloutly pathetic, and if you change anything Frankie it makes the whole map selection thing you did an absolute waste of time.
That's because LC doesn't play rm based maps.... it's mainly a blood clan.........
Euro is a cheap option for a free win vs clans like LC ... yeah you can use veto bla, but that should be used else where... ...........................
The maps should really just be the top played maps in CS, clans shouldn't even get to decide ... it just causes trouble
It should be this:
4v4/3v3:
Vet
Smosh
Gwarz
Spider
Germs
CBA
CBA Hero
RCB
KM
Radical
2v2/1v1 a mix of the above
if you want to play the most played maps go challenge a clan to a war and have fun... tournaments rules were what they are... obviously people pick their strengths as their maps they want included
Yea i gave this tourney a pretty small chance at succes from the start.
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often.
I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
Example andreas: You play RM but you suck at europe, Fish sucks at RM, probably far worse than you, and would molest you in every way possible in europe, so how exactly is europe just 'rm players'.
How the **** you are 26/27 and studying to be a doctor i will never fully understand.
All this over ONE ****ing map that got voted in that you DONT EVEN HAVE TO PLAY. Holy **** you are a special kind of faggot.
Yea i gave this tourney a pretty small chance at succes from the start.
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often.
I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
everything you just wrote is hypocrisy or a blatant lie... you are choosing primarily CB's and theres clans like vicious who basically dont have CBA players... I have no doubt you guys will pick CB's as your "home maps" when you play them.
And the fun part for 7th is that you dont even have to play euro at all vs the 2 teams who can beat you in it 100%. So in the end how does this tournament come down to Europe? Take a look at your own teams map picks.
You guys have people like efkan and damian who came 1st/2nd in the last germs tournament... but you feel you guys are stronger as a clan in "path and herofest" than germs? You guys wanted to go for cheap win maps that not too many people play and hoped another clan or two would vote them in too but that backfired.
In the end you guys still got basically every type of cb variation you wanted. You even vote now yourself that germs should be in 3v3/4v4 and you guys didnt vote for it... logic.
every clan picked best maps they are good at.. which makes sense, lol.
also it was so obv. from the beginning that eot/vicious was gonna pick europe as long as it's allowed, why did it suprize you that much?
imo, it shouldnt be a big deal since every clan has 3 veto right.
every clan picked best maps they are good at.. which makes sense, lol.
also it was so obv. from the beginning that eot/vicious was gonna pick europe as long as it's allowed, why did it suprize you that much?
imo, it shouldnt be a big deal since every clan has 3 veto right.
thats the whole point kuvvy... and 7th wont have to play Europe against either clan if they dont want to... but you already know how 7th can be from the CBA tournament... everything that has good in it.. andreas or damian have to cry about and make a big deal over, unless its tailor made for 7th in every aspect.
2v2
1. Smosh 2. CBA
3. CBA Hero
4. AB
5. Gwarz 6. Khans
7. Graves
8. Euro 9. Dome
10. Lustful
3v3/4v4
1. Gwarz
2. Smosh
3. Vetz 4. CBA Hero
5. CBA
6. KM
7. Germs
8. Lustful
9. Euro 10. RCB
11. Spider
12. WoA
13. Nova 14. Path
15. Graves
16. CBX
17. Art of war
i would remove certain maps myself if the decision came down to me but i respect other clans their picks just like i will respect frankie and his format that he created for this tournament i will even make sure that TAOE does not use a single veto as i find it rather lame that you try to avoid certain maps just because your chances are lower then the other clan but frankie added the veto so i have no problem if others clans use it
now grow a pair of balls for once and man the **** up instead of acting like bunch of 5 year olds that dont get what they want and if you cant even do this then make sure you let me know this on time so i dont have to waste more time on a event that will fail once again because of the players and not the rules/format like certain people claim
Democracy doesnt work in CS. Be a dictator Frank. And don't just follow the votes blindly. Use them as guidance and make your own list of maps.
Try to make it a true CS tournament, don't cater too much to the bloods players or the CBA players. Find a balanced middle ground. And make sure to emphasize 3v3 so more clans can participate on a competitive level.
When we are playing and if people are going to force me to do 4v4 then I will go ballistic. Fair warning. 4v4 is optional, read the rules.
the only suggestion i got is splitting 3v3/4v4 into different rounds just like you did with 1v1/2v2 just for the sake of already making sure that nobody can create problems around trying to avoid playing 4v4s just because it suits their clan and please dont come with your excuses that you dont have certain amount of players for certain maps because each single clan has enough members to create a 4 man team for each single map even if it aint their "best"
Im going with this route mate with the maps because i believe its the fairest way possible. If i was to pick the maps i would be forcing other maps in and i would probably have to deal with even more complaining. By going this route everybody had contributed to the maps on offer and nobody should have any room to complain about anything.
The set up is perfect and fair if someone doesnt like a map they dont have to play it because the veto system is there. Im really unsure why any map could even be an issue now.
4v4 is optional and is only there if both clans want it. Regardless if they have 10 people online they can choose 3v3 no questions asked.
We picked Europe because it's fun to play, and Eot/Dv8 are going to be fun matches. With the veto system, we knew everyone else would vote against it when it comes up in games. We've got to put up with maps we find atrocious in AOC (CBA Hero, AB) and maps we barely play (RCB, CBA Same civ).
You all looked like spoiled children the way you're carrying on. Agree to disagree, and let Frankie do his thing. I don't like when people attack other's personal lives in an argument (ie questioning Andreas on his age and studying to be a doctor). Keep that childish banter to PMs or the lobby.
Yea i gave this tourney a pretty small chance at succes from the start.
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often. I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
I still don't get what is your point , if you wanna beat clans at their best you should play any settings any format without care about maps.
If you think Euro is a cheap option to win vs any clan , blood maps are cheap win against us then . You guys can veto against europe but we can't use veto against every single blood maps we don't know .
I don't know why you guys surprised too much after your all fav maps didnt chosen.
Voting it was the fairest way to do it, yet again, it's only the people who suck at euro crying about it (I don't see fran from 7th coming and crying like the rest of you absolute raging ****s). Rules were clear, frankie should just enforce them with 0 tolerance, someone will always cry and you will not please everyone, but this was done in the fairest way and i'm surprised people can cry so much about europe when it was VOTED in democratically. 7th KNEW from the start europe would probably make an appearance and waited till now to cry about it, absoloutly pathetic, and if you change anything Frankie it makes the whole map selection thing you did an absolute waste of time.
Euro is a cheap option for a free win vs clans like LC ... yeah you can use veto bla, but that should be used else where... ...........................
The maps should really just be the top played maps in CS, clans shouldn't even get to decide ... it just causes trouble
It should be this:
4v4/3v3:
Vet
Smosh
Gwarz
Spider
Germs
CBA
CBA Hero
RCB
KM
Radical
2v2/1v1 a mix of the above
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often.
I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
Holy ****.
Example andreas: You play RM but you suck at europe, Fish sucks at RM, probably far worse than you, and would molest you in every way possible in europe, so how exactly is europe just 'rm players'.
How the **** you are 26/27 and studying to be a doctor i will never fully understand.
All this over ONE ****ing map that got voted in that you DONT EVEN HAVE TO PLAY. Holy **** you are a special kind of faggot.
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often.
I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
And the fun part for 7th is that you dont even have to play euro at all vs the 2 teams who can beat you in it 100%. So in the end how does this tournament come down to Europe? Take a look at your own teams map picks.
You guys have people like efkan and damian who came 1st/2nd in the last germs tournament... but you feel you guys are stronger as a clan in "path and herofest" than germs? You guys wanted to go for cheap win maps that not too many people play and hoped another clan or two would vote them in too but that backfired.
In the end you guys still got basically every type of cb variation you wanted. You even vote now yourself that germs should be in 3v3/4v4 and you guys didnt vote for it... logic.
every clan picked best maps they are good at.. which makes sense, lol.
also it was so obv. from the beginning that eot/vicious was gonna pick europe as long as it's allowed, why did it suprize you that much?
imo, it shouldnt be a big deal since every clan has 3 veto right.
every clan picked best maps they are good at.. which makes sense, lol.
also it was so obv. from the beginning that eot/vicious was gonna pick europe as long as it's allowed, why did it suprize you that much?
imo, it shouldnt be a big deal since every clan has 3 veto right.
1. Germs
2. CBA
3. RCB
4. AB
5. CBA hero
6. Smosh
7. Dome
8. Gwarz
9. Khans
10. Radical
2v2
1. Smosh
2. CBA
3. CBA Hero
4. AB
5. Gwarz
6. Khans
7. Graves
8. Euro
9. Dome
10. Lustful
3v3/4v4
1. Gwarz
2. Smosh
3. Vetz
4. CBA Hero
5. CBA
6. KM
7. Germs
8. Lustful
9. Euro
10. RCB
11. Spider
12. WoA
13. Nova
14. Path
15. Graves
16. CBX
17. Art of war
i would remove certain maps myself if the decision came down to me but i respect other clans their picks just like i will respect frankie and his format that he created for this tournament i will even make sure that TAOE does not use a single veto as i find it rather lame that you try to avoid certain maps just because your chances are lower then the other clan but frankie added the veto so i have no problem if others clans use it
now grow a pair of balls for once and man the **** up instead of acting like bunch of 5 year olds that dont get what they want and if you cant even do this then make sure you let me know this on time so i dont have to waste more time on a event that will fail once again because of the players and not the rules/format like certain people claim
Try to make it a true CS tournament, don't cater too much to the bloods players or the CBA players. Find a balanced middle ground. And make sure to emphasize 3v3 so more clans can participate on a competitive level.
When we are playing and if people are going to force me to do 4v4 then I will go ballistic. Fair warning. 4v4 is optional, read the rules.
The set up is perfect and fair if someone doesnt like a map they dont have to play it because the veto system is there. Im really unsure why any map could even be an issue now.
4v4 is optional and is only there if both clans want it. Regardless if they have 10 people online they can choose 3v3 no questions asked.
You all looked like spoiled children the way you're carrying on. Agree to disagree, and let Frankie do his thing. I don't like when people attack other's personal lives in an argument (ie questioning Andreas on his age and studying to be a doctor). Keep that childish banter to PMs or the lobby.
Said to army that the only way i see it work would be coming up with a random league based system of relevant 'most played maps', so no clans would try to get easy wins from lame picks and there would be no arguing on the maps.
I honestly am prepared to play any lame CS pick vs any clan. Am not prepared to play rm in a tourney that's claiming to be about finding the best overall CS clan.
my post in 7th forum:
I'm against picking maps solely cause other clans don't play them often.
I wanna beat clans at their best, in their best maps (except woa cause woa sucks =o).
maps i think should definately be in it:
3v 3/4v 4:
Smosh
Vetz
Germs
Gwars
Path
CBa
so TLDR:
i wanna see legit, relevant maps
not some ****ty picks cause clans know that other clans don't play rm
I still don't get what is your point , if you wanna beat clans at their best you should play any settings any format without care about maps.
If you think Euro is a cheap option to win vs any clan , blood maps are cheap win against us then . You guys can veto against europe but we can't use veto against every single blood maps we don't know .
I don't know why you guys surprised too much after your all fav maps didnt chosen.