Well, this thread is clearly going to go well.

Say we're scared or whatever, it doesn't bother me/us. We will most likely play Xcel in Europe at least once, and I believe we will win. I do however respect Xcels europe team and know they absolutely have a chance to beat us, and I think playing it multiple times when we have a large number of maps we feel are in our favor is just not logical. Playing Europe 2-3x in a tournament that consist of 5 TG games and is supposed to showcase all of CS doesn't really make sense to me either. Everyone else is Veto'ing all the maps they don't like, and we just don't want to play europe multiple times and people won't leave it alone? WTF

You cried enough to get dopey in (even though he should not have been allowed), but apparently that wasn't enough and now you're talking crap because we don't want to accept a term YOU guys decided? **** off.

Let us know about Krasics availability. Thanks.

What you are talking about Rick? I didn't say we will play Europe more than one time in my last comment it's will be only the decider and each clan pick different maps. Don't eot always cry about they get bad in random decider map? So Europe will suit both clans.

I understand Xcels position. We would try to get other clans to play CBA or Archer Blood multiple times, too cause theyre two of only a few maps we are really good in.

Yea this seems like massive butthurt from Rick. Its a proposal that the decider be set to a map both clans know well and not leaving it to be decided by luck. I think deciding via random is an awful thing.


Can we open talks about next years format. I think that Smosh should be the Decider. Its easier than almost any CS map to get to a high level in.

In what way is this butthurt? We are following the rules of TIW. I'm not upset or bothered, but the fact is we've said we don't want to do it this way, and we are under 0 obligation to do it.

Europe is a map both clans are good in, we feel over a random decider we have more maps than Xcel. Therefore, we will be playing TIW as is with no 'agreements', sorry - we will be picking whatever maps we feel like and the decider will be random. If you want to play us in Europe, feel free to pick it (I understand why you are trying to do this - you dont want to use a pick on europe). Argue all you want, it won't change anything.

Let me make it clear one more time, no matter what you say, or how you try to troll us, we will be playing TIW under the rules that are defined for it, and are not making any 'agreements'. From now on discussion in this thread from myself will be map selections and scheduling only.

Troll? Sounds like its the only map you know, not knowing who u are 11 why should a decider be decidey by 70% luck

Careful XceL, Eot using short wall mod cheats to click damaged walls easier in Khans.

See you then. Even though i'd prefer to post up maps, guessing we'll do it 1 hour before.
Good luck guys

We played in the same games a few days ago -_-'

http://www.voobly.com/match/view/13810873
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/13810925
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/13811089

Wish all those games had been smosh too

In all probability i think both will pick europe (i will be surprised if not but even i wont know until i get sent maps), remember when it is your pick you get to decide the fair spots agreed or else random. If you select spots i guess it means you can practice those spots and civs which may or may not help when the game is played. If you select random you will need to agree before hand how many restarts are available whether one or two each (as long as you agree before the game is launched). If an agreement cant be met on restarts then you will go with the spots you get. Personally i would like to see both picking europe but its not my decision.

No clan is obligated to pick any map or agree to picking a map. I have no problem if both agree to select a particular map for example europe instead of going random in the random round. However if both dont agree then it will be random no questions asked. The problem first of all of on agreeing to a map and saying if its a decider is nobody knows if the random round will in fact become a decider. For now the only way to give yourself a chance of a map being played is to select it yourself and hope it isnt vetoed. I would be surprised if either clan selects europe that the other will veto but i guess time will tell.

For now i think you both are best just coming to an agreement on when your going to play though i dont see any harm in asking for particular set ups now. Whether that is pre selecting a map, posting your map picks, waiting until one hour before, agreeing on restarts or whatever. But i do ask if a clan doesnt agree to what your proposing to not bait them as history shows baiting only turns into alot of tension and **** talk. I also ask if others not in either clan leave the discussion between the two clans.

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That ****, blind-siding someone like that.

Eot won't pick europe

Soon the Rick/Efkan abomination will consume all of cs.