Maps; Each player picks 2 maps like a typical blood b05. Decider = Smosh 1v1.
Maps would be limited to the most known/ some less played. (Most of the bloods on the Rated bloods menu) Did this real fast and deleted some of the real **** maps that are never played (or ive never heard of at least)
Well, personally a Smosh decider needs to be played BO3 for obvious reasons.
As for bloods, they would need to be faster maps. Unless you started the first few rounds as best of 3, then expanded the maps to best of 5 in semi-finals.
So you could start with a map pool where players can choose 1 map each and the colour they want for the map (pool size 5 maps i.e - Khans/Veterans/Germs/KingsMove/Spider for example). Decider remains a constant (smosh BO3?).
Then the semi-finals have a set map list order.
The final has a set list order, different from the semi-finals.
That seems like the better way to host such a tournament. I also think a seeding system would be nice, so top players don't knock each other out in the early rounds (unsure on what style of system - whether you base it on ratings, current matches played, use a new ladder where top 8 players are seeded), or whatever.
For something of this nature to be successful, you need an incentive. A quality incentive. Premium memberships are all well and good, but it isn't a big incentive. Cash is, and if you can find a sponsor/s to donate some cash (anything of $100 plus), you will attract the other CS ladder communities to train, practice and learn the maps in order to win cash.
Added that with the current streaming era for AoC which will hopefully be introduced to CS in the near future, there's huge potential to build up the game. Starcraft 2 players have been intrigued by AoC streams, wanting to try the game out. I'm sure there's many other types of players who are in the same boat once they get a glimpse of what the game is all about.
I'd consider funding such a tournament, as long as the important matches were streamed and the rules were set to prevent camping and pointless laming. I was going to fund a tournament before last year, but I had no time for AoC when I planned to run it.
interesting idea but most ppl will (obviously) just choose the maps their opponents are weakest in leading to low quality games, 2-2 ties, and matches that come down to the decider every time.
Well, personally a Smosh decider needs to be played BO3 for obvious reasons.
Without a doubt.
So you could start with a map pool where players can choose 1 map each and the colour they want for the map (pool size 5 maps i.e - Khans/Veterans/Germs/KingsMove/Spider for example). Decider remains a constant (smosh BO3?).
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Then the semi-finals have a set map list order.
See thats what I want to get away from. This is a problem the blood community in aoc cs has ALWAYS had. We are too "selective" in blood maps.
Unless it is: Smosh, vetz, khanz, germs, spider, gwarz, graves, Herofest, KM, (plus a couple few others), the maps are shunned and not really acknowledged.
The point of this tournament is DIVERSITY. Playing more then the regular top known blood maps we have been whoring for years. Give a chance for everyone to practice new maps,
I don't like the master of bloods tournament because it is TOO structured. It is based on LUCK half the time more then actual skill.
Maybe put in something like you cannot pick the same map twice in a row!. Like hoodlum could not pick graves every round, and metal/vicer could not pick vetz every round. etc.
OR, you could add in a brand new map that a host is creating, some blood type map that takes some decent skill as the decider to get more activity and players playing DIFFERENT maps.
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You deleted maps that are played but left Archers Advanced?
It just seemed like a blood archer map... so i left it. I said this was a VERY rough list haha.
These events cant be made overly complex. Otherwise they become to difficult to moderate. For instance you cant have 1 group of players picking khans/germs/vetz/KM and then have another group picking eternal/graves/doom/woa.... if any disputes arise it will just cause to many problems. The tournament will fail.
What about setting up some sort of a point system for playing VCOM events? Each time a person wins a tournament game they recieve x amount of points... and as they go farther into tournaments those points increase. The highest point totals after x amount of time get invited to a more complex event.
These events cant be made overly complex. Otherwise they become to difficult to moderate. For instance you cant have 1 group of players picking khans/germs/vetz/KM and then have another group picking eternal/graves/doom/woa.... if any disputes arise it will just cause to many problems. The tournament will fail.
Well thats the point lol, you have to learn more then your own maps...
Why would there be disputes though.
Each person picks one map. Decider is pre-determined.
Maps would be limited to the most known/ some less played. (Most of the bloods on the Rated bloods menu) Did this real fast and deleted some of the real **** maps that are never played (or ive never heard of at least)
You could pick two out of this:
=V= Archers Advanced.scn
=V= Archers Blood v3.scx
=V= Archers Hellfire.scx
=V= Bens 1v1 Smosh.scx
=V= Blacksmith Blood.scn
=V= Cavalry Blood.scx
=V= Chaos Blood v2.scx
=V= Daze Blood v5.scx
=V= Deathrow.scx
=V= Desert Blood.scx
=V= Diamond Blood.scx
=V= Dome Blood - Hero v3.scx
=V= Doom Final.scx
=V= Dual Blood v2.scx
=V= Fury Blood v2.scx
=V= Germs Blood.scx
=V= Grave Blood.scx
=V= Gwarz v3.scx
=V= Herofest v2.scx
=V= Ivory Blood.scx
=V= Khans Blood 4P.scx
=V= Khans Blood v2.scx
=V= King Moves.scx
=V= Krank Blood v2.scx
=V= Nova Blood.scx
=V= Path B H v3.scx
=V= Path Blood v3.scx
=V= Pool Blood.scx
=V= Radical Blood 4P v2.scx
=V= Sharp Blood.scx
=V= Small Blood.scx
=V= Soldier Store Accel.scx
=V= Soldier Store 8P v3.scx
=V= Spider Blood 1v1.scx
=V= Veteran Blood v4.scx
=V= Veteran BloodBvsG v2.scx
=V= WoA.scx
=V= Yeomen Blood v2.scx
As for bloods, they would need to be faster maps. Unless you started the first few rounds as best of 3, then expanded the maps to best of 5 in semi-finals.
So you could start with a map pool where players can choose 1 map each and the colour they want for the map (pool size 5 maps i.e - Khans/Veterans/Germs/KingsMove/Spider for example). Decider remains a constant (smosh BO3?).
Then the semi-finals have a set map list order.
The final has a set list order, different from the semi-finals.
That seems like the better way to host such a tournament. I also think a seeding system would be nice, so top players don't knock each other out in the early rounds (unsure on what style of system - whether you base it on ratings, current matches played, use a new ladder where top 8 players are seeded), or whatever.
For something of this nature to be successful, you need an incentive. A quality incentive. Premium memberships are all well and good, but it isn't a big incentive. Cash is, and if you can find a sponsor/s to donate some cash (anything of $100 plus), you will attract the other CS ladder communities to train, practice and learn the maps in order to win cash.
Added that with the current streaming era for AoC which will hopefully be introduced to CS in the near future, there's huge potential to build up the game. Starcraft 2 players have been intrigued by AoC streams, wanting to try the game out. I'm sure there's many other types of players who are in the same boat once they get a glimpse of what the game is all about.
Sorry about the long ass rant.
People will pick worse maps.
A player chooses a Map
The Other choose a map
And the other three maps are set by the mod's
Without a doubt.
So you could start with a map pool where players can choose 1 map each and the colour they want for the map (pool size 5 maps i.e - Khans/Veterans/Germs/KingsMove/Spider for example). Decider remains a constant (smosh BO3?).
See thats what I want to get away from. This is a problem the blood community in aoc cs has ALWAYS had. We are too "selective" in blood maps.
Unless it is: Smosh, vetz, khanz, germs, spider, gwarz, graves, Herofest, KM, (plus a couple few others), the maps are shunned and not really acknowledged.
The point of this tournament is DIVERSITY. Playing more then the regular top known blood maps we have been whoring for years. Give a chance for everyone to practice new maps,
I don't like the master of bloods tournament because it is TOO structured. It is based on LUCK half the time more then actual skill.
Maybe put in something like you cannot pick the same map twice in a row!. Like hoodlum could not pick graves every round, and metal/vicer could not pick vetz every round. etc.
OR, you could add in a brand new map that a host is creating, some blood type map that takes some decent skill as the decider to get more activity and players playing DIFFERENT maps.
What about setting up some sort of a point system for playing VCOM events? Each time a person wins a tournament game they recieve x amount of points... and as they go farther into tournaments those points increase. The highest point totals after x amount of time get invited to a more complex event.
Well thats the point lol, you have to learn more then your own maps...
Why would there be disputes though.
Each person picks one map. Decider is pre-determined.