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TRUMP vs BIDEN

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 [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth


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Edited 13 November 2020 - 12:51 pm by [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth
"...
And he comes to the conclusion:
His mishap was an illusion,
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which must not, can not be."

Christian Morgenstern "The Impossible Fact"



Trump is a malignant narcissist. He lacks any social norm. Norms that normally prevent us from cheating, lying, stealing and so on. The normal narcissist still has "sleepless nights" because of his behavior. Trump on the other hand shows no remorse and apparently has no inner moral brakes on his antisocial behavior.

Via Twitter he has created his own social media army. He knows what moves his conservative followers and can thus offer his view of things "unfiltered" and "unadulterated".

Simple and catchy slogans. Over and over again ...

"I am the president and you are fake news" means nothing other than he alone has the sovereignty to interpret the truth. His truth ...

And because he is the president and it cannot be that such a person lies, it also becomes the truth of many of his followers. They believe him every word. He does not need proof for his claims. He is the "leader" and his followers follow him unconditionally.

Trump also doesn't think about the consequences of spreading conspiracy theories (which he knows for sure are wrong) as long as he only achieves his goals.

There is no defeat in his cosmos. And certainly not an election defeat against Biden.

So he has made provisions for the worst case scenario and brought the fairy tale of the possibility of election rigging up. Long before the actual election. If he loses, then only through fraud.

A demagogue par excellence. Goebbels could not have done it better.

And now we see what happens when such a person freaks out after an election defeat.

The only one who could stop Trump from using the army against the demonstrators in the summer after the protests around Floyd was the Minister of Defense, Esper.

He and other important people in the Pentagon were now "terminated" and replaced by henchmen.

Donald Trump is unpredictable in his anger and that makes him very dangerous.

The Russians and Chinese know this. So no official congratulations to Biden.

Biden is also aware of this and it explains his extremely de-escalating behavior.

Don't tease him ...

Everyone should realize that your democracy is in real danger!

God bless Amerika !

P.S. Sorry for grammar faults

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 MMO_Executioner


Join Date: 30 June 2007
Posts:467
Posted 13 November 2020 - 3:03 pm
"...
And he comes to the conclusion:
His mishap was an illusion,
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which must not, can not be."

Christian Morgenstern "The Impossible Fact"



Trump is a malignant narcissist. He lacks any social norm. Norms that normally prevent us from cheating, lying, stealing and so on. The normal narcissist still has "sleepless nights" because of his behavior. Trump on the other hand shows no remorse and apparently has no inner moral brakes on his antisocial behavior.

Via Twitter he has created his own social media army. He knows what moves his conservative followers and can thus offer his view of things "unfiltered" and "unadulterated".

Simple and catchy slogans. Over and over again ...

"I am the president and you are fake news" means nothing other than he alone has the sovereignty to interpret the truth. His truth ...

And because he is the president and it cannot be that such a person lies, it also becomes the truth of many of his followers. They believe him every word. He does not need proof for his claims. He is the "leader" and his followers follow him unconditionally.

Trump also doesn't think about the consequences of spreading conspiracy theories (which he knows for sure are wrong) as long as he only achieves his goals.

There is no defeat in his cosmos. And certainly not an election defeat against Biden.

So he has made provisions for the worst case scenario and brought the fairy tale of the possibility of election rigging up. Long before the actual election. If he loses, then only through fraud.

A demagogue par excellence. Goebbels could not have done it better.

And now we see what happens when such a person freaks out after an election defeat.

The only one who could stop Trump from using the army against the demonstrators in the summer after the protests around Floyd was the Minister of Defense, Esper.

He and other important people in the Pentagon were now "terminated" and replaced by henchmen.

Donald Trump is unpredictable in his anger and that makes him very dangerous.

The Russians and Chinese know this. So no official congratulations to Biden.

Biden is also aware of this and it explains his extremely de-escalating behavior.

Don't tease him ...

Everyone should realize that your democracy is in real danger!

God bless Amerika !

P.S. Sorry for grammar faults

I can tell you get your news from CNN
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 ducelion_


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Posted 13 November 2020 - 4:30 pm
can you guys pls
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 [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth


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Posted 13 November 2020 - 4:37 pm
I can tell you get your news from CNN

No, sir.

I am using the cognitive abilities of a body part called the brain.

That which prevents me from injecting disinfectant against covid or raking the floors (ground) of the forrest against fire hazard.

Try it. It works fine.

But not everyone can be saved. Sad but true.
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 kwin


Join Date: 21 November 2012
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Posted 14 November 2020 - 7:18 am
"...
And he comes to the conclusion:
His mishap was an illusion,
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which must not, can not be."

Christian Morgenstern "The Impossible Fact"



Trump is a malignant narcissist. He lacks any social norm. Norms that normally prevent us from cheating, lying, stealing and so on. The normal narcissist still has "sleepless nights" because of his behavior. Trump on the other hand shows no remorse and apparently has no inner moral brakes on his antisocial behavior.

Via Twitter he has created his own social media army. He knows what moves his conservative followers and can thus offer his view of things "unfiltered" and "unadulterated".

Simple and catchy slogans. Over and over again ...

"I am the president and you are fake news" means nothing other than he alone has the sovereignty to interpret the truth. His truth ...

And because he is the president and it cannot be that such a person lies, it also becomes the truth of many of his followers. They believe him every word. He does not need proof for his claims. He is the "leader" and his followers follow him unconditionally.

Trump also doesn't think about the consequences of spreading conspiracy theories (which he knows for sure are wrong) as long as he only achieves his goals.

There is no defeat in his cosmos. And certainly not an election defeat against Biden.

So he has made provisions for the worst case scenario and brought the fairy tale of the possibility of election rigging up. Long before the actual election. If he loses, then only through fraud.

A demagogue par excellence. Goebbels could not have done it better.

And now we see what happens when such a person freaks out after an election defeat.

The only one who could stop Trump from using the army against the demonstrators in the summer after the protests around Floyd was the Minister of Defense, Esper.

He and other important people in the Pentagon were now "terminated" and replaced by henchmen.

Donald Trump is unpredictable in his anger and that makes him very dangerous.

The Russians and Chinese know this. So no official congratulations to Biden.

Biden is also aware of this and it explains his extremely de-escalating behavior.

Don't tease him ...

Everyone should realize that your democracy is in real danger!

God bless Amerika !

P.S. Sorry for grammar faults

Very good post, it's a pity but oh so true... :(
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 Kollegah37


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Posted 14 November 2020 - 3:19 pm
As a german the only Thing I can say is that we would do anything to have a Leader like Donald Trump.
Instead we have Merkel who is destroying this beautiful Country.
I dont understand how anyone can support Joe Biden, after everything that got exposed about him (Ukraine, his Son and all the Videos where he touches and kisses little Children). Yea Trump isnt perfect, but all the Hate hes getting is unfair. He made America powerful again, he created Jobs for the US Citizens and he is making peace around the whole globe, he didnt even started a War like Obama (7 Wars)... but still he is getting attacked. And the sad thing is, the People believe what the Fake Media is telling them.
I wish we could have him here in Germany, u guys should be proud to have him instead of pedophile Creepy Joe Biden b who supports terrorist Organisations like Antifa and BLM.
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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 14 November 2020 - 3:36 pm
kwin wrote:
Very good post, it's a pity but oh so true... :(
Majority of what he said isnt true at all and you call it a good post 11.
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 [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth


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Posted 14 November 2020 - 4:21 pm
Majority of what he said isnt true at all and you call it a good post 11.

A comment, which in its interpretability functions like its creator. Everything could be meant, but in the end it refers only to himself.

A discussion of the content is unfortunately not possible.
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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 14 November 2020 - 4:44 pm
A comment, which in its interpretability functions like its creator. Everything could be meant, but in the end it refers only to himself.

A discussion of the content is unfortunately not possible.
You need a better translator or something but ill break down most of what you said for you.

Trump's team has every legal right for the next month or so to try and prove what they claim. If they cant, Joe Biden will be the next president and if they can Bidens presidency will be disputed it's as simple as that.

Most of what you just said about Trump you can literally say about every known democrat over the last few years. If you knew anything about the US media you'd realize this. This is the Democratic speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi after trump won the election.

Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
May 16, 2017
Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts.

If you want ill find more quotes for you after he won the election just to prove it.


Joe Biden being voted nearly 10M more votes than Obama doesn't make sense to any functioning person. Also keeping a senate and gaining many (at this point right now 12 seats and likely more) house seats doesnt make sense if you knew how the US elections worked.

It could be Trump's last two months in office so he fired a few people he couldn't trust and replaced them with people he can trust (these arent 'henchmen') Those people will be out if biden is the next president so there's really no harm, only your bias is making you think there is.

So let's talk about China & Russia since you brought it up. After Trump won in 2016 every democrat tried to get him impeached and claimed that Russia helped him and interfered. They found out that most people involved lied and there was no actual evidence to support that. Joe Biden and his son has been taking money from China for a while and Joe Biden also wants to always support China (not trump)




if Biden wins the presidency, the rich gets richer. He already put board members from Amazon, Facebook, AirBnb, Uber, Microsoft etc as part of his 'transition' team. The average worker gets ****ed over. So being from Canada and watching their politics as well as having friends that live there who I talk to im well aware of how the American Democracy is screwed at this point. Regardless of the result half of the country wont be able to cope with what happens.

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 ['RB']ZottenDree


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Posted 14 November 2020 - 11:53 pm
lol politics
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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 15 November 2020 - 1:04 am
https://twitter.com/i/status/1327759618437689344

America!

BLM! ANTIFA!
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 [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth


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Edited 15 November 2020 - 11:40 am by [s1L3nT]Amon__Amarth
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1.
A democracy depends on the citizens' trust in the system's compliance with its rules and function.

Trump's statements about the press (fake news, public enemy) and the election process (fraud) destroy this trust in democratic institutions. It is as it is. An attack on democracy.

2.
While still in electoral power, Trump prematurely declared himself as the winner and accused his political opponents of fraud, although hundreds of thousands of votes have not been counted. This is grotesque, absurd and anti-democratic.

The right to vote is the most important right of every citizen in democracy. And every citizen has the right to have his vote counted.

Even before the election, Trump had left it open whether he would accept the election results and had not wanted to guarantee a peaceful transfer of power. Moreover, he had repeatedly claimed that his democratic opponent could only win if there was "massive electoral fraud.

Neither before nor after the election there is any evidence of this.

Several lawsuits filed by Trump lawyers in various states have already failed in court due to lack of evidence.

Well, hope dies last.

Let's wait and see what happens.

3.
The 2016 election is history. We should not open a new barrel here.

4.
This election was declared by both sides as a choice of fate, which also explains the high and gratifying voter turnout.

The number of eligible voters and the number of votes cast should be known.

Is there something wrong ? Point 2

5.
I said:
"Donald Trump is unpredictable in his anger and that makes him very dangerous.

The Russians and Chinese know this. So no official congratulations to Biden."

You said:
"So let's talk about China & Russia since you brought it up. After Trump won in 2016 every democrat tried to get him impeached and claimed that Russia helped him and interfered. They found out that most people involved lied and there was no actual evidence to support that. Joe Biden and his son has been taking money from China for a while and Joe Biden also wants to always support China (not trump)"

My Answer:
?????????? rofl

6.
Who knows what the future will bring.

7.
"President Trump has not only replaced the Secretary of Defense, but also his most important Secretaries of State, including the Chief of Military Intelligence and the Chief of Staff. All three posts were replaced with inexperienced people. Their only qualification is that they are absolutely loyalists to Trump. There is a drastic military term for this. It is called a decapitation strike, which takes away all leadership ability from the enemy. This is exactly what Trump did to the US military."

Admiral James George Stavridis
Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) 2009 - 2013
US European Command (EUCOM) 2009 - 2013

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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 15 November 2020 - 5:00 pm
This is why MMO was right when he said you likely just watch CNN to get your information. You're a low information person basically just talking CNN talking points.

1. You are right democracy depends on the citizens trust. Before this election democrats vastly believed it was rigged against them and tried to dispute trumps presidency for 4 years. Now there is voter fraud coming out and they believe it isnt rigged while Republicans believe it was rigged. Either way one side wont be happy. The only difference is when republicans are feeling cheated theres actual proof to point otherwise

He isnt wrong about fake news media. They are very selective with the info they share (ABC,CNN,MSNBC,NBC etc) If you looked at any of these channels youtubes before the election for months leading up you will find mostly all negative stories on Trump and you wont find anything about Biden's china scandal with his son or any other bad press for Joe Biden.

2. Trump has a poor way with words sometimes but in the end he feels he got cheated. So do millions of republicans & moderates. Even some democrats feel there was cheating going on. He wanted every legal vote counted. There is evidence of dead people voting, people voting multiple times & even 'glitches' with the Dominion machines which change votes from Biden to Trump. One machine was already found in Michigan which flipped 6000 Trump votes to Biden and more is coming out each day.

Because you watch CNN you think theres no evidence. Trump's legal team has every right to fight every avenue and find out as much as they can. The only states that are having these issues also coincidentally are democrat run states which all had big trump leads on election night then all of a sudden so many ballots were being found and showing up to be counted.

3. Okay so again you dont want to open or talk about 2016 even though it shows just how full of **** democrats are and how bad the hypocrisy is. After Trump won in 2016 they wanted recounts and felt he cheated in someway. Afterwards they wouldnt accept him as President and did everything they could to undermine his Presidency for the entire time. Tried to get him out of office, tried to use the 25th amendment on him, attacked him all over media with no repercussions at all etc. Now somehow you think republicans would just sit back and let that happen? Especially because of how things went down in 2016 the country will be entirely divided regardless of who will be the next President.

4. Again I said the same thing trump's team is saying. Legal votes should be counted not 'all' votes. If you voted twice, one counts. If your dead grandfather voted, his vote doesnt count. I think that's pretty clear.

5. Russia & Chinese benefit far more from having a frail and weak President in Biden than they do having Trump whos a nationalist and puts his country before theirs. Anyone that says Trump is owned by Putin is just misinformed or low information. They tried to use that narrative after he won the election in 2016 and said Russia interfered. Some corrupt FBI agents looked into it and tried to find all they could and nothing ended up sticking.

6. Again he needs people close to him that he can trust, also they are qualified. Only people that he fired are people he has some issue with and its his right as President to fight this however he wants to. If it doesn't go his way then Biden will be President and likely the guys he fired would be fired regardless and replaced with someone Biden wanted in that position instead.
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 [xCs]PLO_Style


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Posted 15 November 2020 - 5:30 pm
Russia is happy with a Biden victory? Have you seen Russia Today's reporting for the last 4 years up till now? 11

Trump has a poor way with words "sometimes"?? 111 he's borderline ****ed. I'd be surprised if he actually has a legitimate college degree.

Why do you guys pretend you are having an argument as if one of you will change your minds? You both just want to be right, no matter the truth. Neither will change their minds. Just pea****ing like a bunch of high-school girls 🤪
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 [Eot_]Trumplaris


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Posted 15 November 2020 - 5:53 pm
What does Russia gain with Trump in office? The narrative for several years that people tried to play was that Trump does Putin's bidding on everything. He literally puts his countries interests before anyone else which is why big companies dont like him and why Silicon Valley and all the wealthy badly need a weak person like Biden in office.

I said sometimes and stand by that. I mean when Trump speaks you understand what hes saying pretty much all the time even if its exaggerated at times or he emphasizes stupid things or brags too much which can be annoying. On the other hand Biden literally can't speak for 5 minutes in a row without needing a break to find where he is or what he was talking about and constantly stumbles on his own thoughts/words.

I dont expect I will change his mind, He's low information. Telling me CNN talking points they use daily also wont change my mind. Bush & Gore spent 35+ days over one state in 2000. This is multiple states and likely at the end of it will go to the supreme court and eventually CNN will have to stop lying to its audience about 'no evidence' and actually report on it in which case he will see.


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